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while cleaning up our 5 hp apple top we found that it was painted red the green that was found was on top of the red, what is the nearest to the original red can i get, post box/pillar box ?

ta

Interesting. To whom was it sold and when? I doubt there is any definitive information. I suggest taking a flake from a dark corner to a paint factor. Compare with BS 381C chart.

hth
Roland

4/2/30 to fowler's i shall go and find the paint chart and see what we get.
thanks any way.

So it might be a Fowler applied red? have you tried asking PT-E (Details in SEM Helpline)?

cheers
Roland

yes it might be, this is my first port of call so i will go through the sem tomoz

ta

could i use and erli carb on this engine ? the sort that has the oil chamber and fuel chamber all one casting ?
unless any one has one they would like to part with

ta

There was a photograph of a red 5hp Appletop in a recent Stationary Engine Magazine (can't remember the exact issue off hand). That was in it's original paintwork, and was definitely red and not green. Perhaps Fowler re-painted all the engines they bought in red to match the colour of the smaller Handyman engines they were buying in vast quantities.

Interestingly, my 1.5hp Petter M Acorn Top is a spec VZA / Handyman engine that was also sold to John Fowler in 1931. It is an older restoration, and is currently painted red, but the paint under the red is olive green (I think this may be the original paint). It does make you wonder if Fowlers painted all the engines they bought in red for installation in their cement mixers to maintain a consitent colour scheme.

Is your engine the one featured in this months SEM? That one was a 5hp Appletop used in a large Fowler Cement Mixer. I can't recall the colour of the engine though - I think it may have been red also!

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Kevin
Lowestoft, Suffolk

Petter would paint in any colour the Customer requested. Known colours include; green (several shades), black, red, white, several greys, blue and no doubt many more.

cheers
Roland

Im not sure if you have a copy of the Petter Oil Engines catalogue re-print produced by David Edgington? If not, I am sure the photographs below will be of interest. The catalogue shows two old photographs of what I believe to be Fowler Cement Mixers powered by a 5hp Petter M (see below).

10 cu ft capacity drum cement mixer powered by a 5hp Petter M (Appletop I suspect from the the photographs in this months Stationary Engine Magazine) featuring a power loader and automatic water tank:


10 cu ft capacity drum cement mixer powered by a 5hp Petter M (Appletop I suspect from the the photographs in this months Stationary Engine Magazine) featuring a power loader, automatic water tank and hoist winch which could be operated simultaneously with the mixer:


Regards,

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Kevin
Lowestoft, Suffolk

Had a look through my magazines last night - it was the January 2012 issue incase you're interested.

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Kevin
Lowestoft, Suffolk