Identify a Petter's engine

Discussion in 'Identification' started by mikeb500, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. mikeb500

    mikeb500 New Member

    Hi all,

    my father bought a Petter's engine and I am hoping one of you will be able to help us identify exactly what type of engine it is, how old (approx) it is and hopefully provide some background information on this type of engine.

    We have not got it running yet, we are missing the tank and any advice or tips on getting this type of engine running would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    /Mike B.

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  2. TangyeDan

    TangyeDan Active Member

    That is a Petter Handyman. Probably pre-1920. There is one at Internal Fire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMeBO6yRzCA . They also have a manual and parts list available for download in the manuals section. It looks as though your engine has been set up to run on gas rather than paraffin (which may explain the missing fuel tank). They are a recalcitrant beast, but I'm sure there are others more knowledgable than I on here who can advise on running techniques.

    Regards
    Dan
     
  3. TangyeDan

    TangyeDan Active Member

  4. fowlerfan

    fowlerfan Member

    Nice engine there, an earlier Handyman due to the style of the governor cage and the JB Petter markings on the base. You should find the engine number stamped on the flywheel rim, flywheel key and sometimes on other parts of the engine, if you find it please let us know.

    I have some further info which I will pass on, PM me with your email etc. The restoration pages on my site are badly due for an update as our engine is virtually finished, only a few minor jobs to be sorted out, a job for the winter !

    Thanks for posting up the photos
    Cheers
    Dave
     
  5. rolfengine

    rolfengine New Member

    hi mike yes a nice engine i have one dated 1903 ser no 928 yours is a little earlier engine base high arch looks< standard>ilk ,inter woven with exhaust rocker , this feature handyman along with the cage gov, your ser no should be stamped above the flywheel gib key on the side of the flywheel ,also around the top face where the cylinder bolts to the block in line with the piston oiler, i have my engine running on yotube have a look and compare put in (rolfengine)are the mains grease or oil pots keep us posted adey
     
  6. goodchip

    goodchip Member

    Of all the early Petter engines I have seen,none have the number cast in the base or emblem.Certainly by about no.1000 the nautilus shell was ground/left out of the emblem.This I think was done to distance the engine side from the grate department.This engine is 1902 or earlier as it has the needle valve fuel regulation.The Petter Proportional System of fuel regulation was introduced in 1902. I think the needle valve superior! The governor belt should be round and be careful the original finish might be under that black paint.Early petters were finished in a nice apple green with black boxing and fine red lining,then varnished with copal varnish altogether a nicely finished engine. The copal varnish always turned black through the years and if you are careful you might find that wonderful finish underneath.Try gently scraping with a razor blade. The main bearing greasers are right but the big end is oil lubricated. These early engine had wall or cooling tank mounted fuel tanks. Good luck, John
     
  7. goodchip

    goodchip Member

    The early engines I have go up to 299 all have the nautilus emblem and no number,I think my next engine is 1032 and has the naultilus ground out. Thinking about the problems that could go wrong in the foundry it was no wonder that the practice was ceased. Thanks for the info Wrist Pin,you learn some thing every day.
     
  8. goodchip

    goodchip Member

    Do you guys notice the remains of the Blackstone oiler on this engine?It is quite correct these early engines were fitted with the same oiler as the Blackstones. I guess this makes me an anorak!
     
  9. mikeb500

    mikeb500 New Member

    Hi all,

    thanks for all your messages, I really appreciate your help. Apologies for the delay in responding, I was away on business last week.

    I will give my Dad a call and get him to look around for the engine number and post back here again when I know more.

    The engine is in Ireland actually, where my Dad has a fairly decent collection of vintage engines (but no internet, which is why I have to do all the emailing & posting for him). :)

    Thanks for all your kind responses,

    /Mike B.
     
  10. mikeb500

    mikeb500 New Member

    Updated info: identify Petter's engine

    Hi all,

    thanks to all for your help so far.

    My father has gone over every inch of the engine and cannot find an engine number anywhere.

    So I am not sure how to further identify the engine.

    Any suggestions ?

    Thanks,

    /Mike B.
     

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