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Discussion in 'Archive Related' started by Glenreed, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. Glenreed

    Glenreed Member

    Hi, please excuse my daftness but, I am having problems attempting to search the raw petter archives.
    I have used it before but all seems different now.
    Do i need to ask for access or am i just being silly.
    I have just purchased a new petter Acorn top 2hp engine number 9021. it would be nice to find a bit of its history and date it, I'm guessing 1931?

    Thanks Glen
     
  2. rustykev1

    rustykev1 New Member

    Hi Glen,
    Your engine has not been indexed. If you will forgive, as it is raining and I have nothing better to do, I trawled round with the permissions I have (I am an indexer!) and found it. If you ask Roland nicely, he will oblige (Records 194212-3, Reel 11A, images 0322/0323)

    To put you out of your misery, Engine No 9021 was supplied on 19 March 1931 to Commander A B ????, at Melbury Bubb, Evershot, Dorset (about 5 miles from the Petter factory). Being local, that address, plus the "commander" may well mean it was connected with the Earl of Ilchester at the Strangways Estates at Melbury Bubb. Order number was 6387 and it was tested on 20 April 1931.

    Now the interesting bit, it was supplied as a tank cooled engine with a 30"x18" water tank, but does confirm it as 2hp at 1,000 rpm

    Kev
     
  3. petternut

    petternut Moderator

    Found record 11A/362 (not 326 :) and indexed. I follow my own guidance herein and usually await the order number from DWE which should also give the buyer's full name. When that is received I will add it to the indexed record. Confirmed as a tank-cooled 1000rpm 2hp engine.

    As an aside unrelated to this query please note the following:
    I have no ability to grant or withold access.
    I volunteer to do this for fun and as some small repayment for all the help I received in the past so
    -rude or brusque emails are ignored,
    -those who fail to say thanks or at least acknowledge the information need not bother to ask a second time,
    -ditto for those whose "requests" contain lies and they'll get short shrift.

    The show orders on reels 14 and 15 contain a wide variety of engine types over at least two decades. They have been rescanned and will hope to get them indexed over the winter.

    I will shortly be selling several M and S types owing to space issues.

    cheers
    Roland
     
  4. Glenreed

    Glenreed Member

    Hi, Thanks a lot for your help. The information is very interesting indeed.
    I may stand to be corrected here but i think a lot of the acorn top hopper types were supplied or at least adapted to be ran with tanks as the coolant capacity wasn't great i would assume? mine does have holes around the top where an adapter could have been fitted. I have seen several engines like this. I am of course only having a bit of a guess?

    Thanks again both of you for your help, i thought i was going mad for a while, obviously knowing that i have found my other petter and a fellow club members engine before, which i believe got indexed afterwards.
    Things have obviously change a bit :roll:



    Cheers Glen
     
  5. petternut

    petternut Moderator

    You are right. Tank-cooled by adding the lid or top to the hopper. The hopper top is in the drawing archive.
    Larger tank too and belt supplied with the engine so probably destined for longish runs.

    cheers
    Roland
     
  6. Glenreed

    Glenreed Member

    Great info thanks,

    I can now see my new engine has been indexed but i cannot seem to see the images of the scanned files? is this my poor computer skill or is it not available in this manner anymore?

    Thanks Glen
     
  7. rustykev1

    rustykev1 New Member

    Glen,
    Are you a registered user? You need to be to actually see the scanned record.

    Kev
     
  8. admin

    admin New Member

    Try now.

    Paul
     
  9. rustykev1

    rustykev1 New Member

    Glen,
    Remember to contact David Edgington for the Order details and let Roland have them - all helps keep the electronic Archive as accurate as possible.
     
  10. Glenreed

    Glenreed Member

    Hi,
    Works perfectly now,

    Thank you for all you help

    I will Email David shortly and pass on details

    Many Many Thanks Glen
     
  11. petternut

    petternut Moderator

    No need to contact DWE for this one now as Kev has sweated the result :)
    I'd rewrite the help file again but nobody reads it whatever I do.

    cheers
    Roland
     
  12. admin

    admin New Member

    What help file?

    :)

    As all users are "engineers", "help file" appears as nine blank spaces in the middle of the line :)

    P
     
  13. ian666

    ian666 Member

    Help files and manuals are the absolute last resort, and are use very grudgingly by "engineers" I have spent weeks on a problem rather than read a manual :wink:

    Ian
     
  14. Glenreed

    Glenreed Member

    Sorry Roland to late, i had already mailed David, he has informed me that he has already sent you the relevant information, so job well done.

    Thanks for all your help again.

    Glen
     
  15. petternut

    petternut Moderator

    I've no problem with that but I do have an issue with spending my time because others can't be bothered to RTFM :x

    hope your weather is better than ours!

    regards
    Roland
     
  16. ian666

    ian666 Member

    Weather a bit better today Roland, yesterday I was thinking a boat would be a better bet than a new van. Was out in the N.Y Moors, and some of the fords made rather interesting driving, one being about 2 foot deep and fairly fast flowing. Good job the van was loaded.
     
  17. petternut

    petternut Moderator

    I have heard from DWE re VZ9021. Sadly his records are partly illegible but extend the buyer's name to Brind??? (Brindley perhaps?)
    It runs well for no load but may I express a personal preference for iron exhaust pipe of 18-24" length. The problem with long pipes is they tend to condense the oil vapour and spew it out as Petterspots (TM-PT-E) or return it to the exhaust pot.

    cheers
    Roland
     
  18. admin

    admin New Member

    Looks and sounds well but personal preference would agree with Roland on the exhaust - there again I am a nasty museum person who likes things boring and original :-(

    All round well done though.

    Paul
     
  19. Glenreed

    Glenreed Member

    well chaps i have to agree also, I have never been one for spangled things and i do believe there is a good 18" of pipe inside the brass sleeve. I just have not separated the 2 yet.
    Although i am not to fussed about Petter spots, as oil is as good on the outside as it is the inside, even of shiney engines :twisted:
    I do have a 110v dynamo i think, that i am in the process of sorting out hopefully so i can make use of the engine and set it to its proper speed as it sounds very slow to me at the moment.


    Cheers Glen
     
  20. campingstoveman

    campingstoveman Active Member

    Glen,

    What I think Roland is getting at and I experienced once is everybody downwind of you gets to enjoy your engine a little more than they would have liked, I was a greenhorn at the time and wore a white shirt, only did it once :lol:

    Martin P

    p.s. Dont forget its AGM Tuesday night.
     

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