What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in Oz

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  1. mikefarm

    mikefarm New Member

    Hi all

    I have this Lister engine in my shearing shed in the Central West of NSW, Australia. It was used to drive the 3 stand shearing setup many years before we bought the farm. So far from looking at pictures on the internet I have worked out that it a Lister CS but there seem to be quite a few different models; CS 6/1, 3-1 and 3.5-1. What do those numbers mean? I have attached pics. I have not yet found the plate that tells me an model or engine number, it may be covered in grease and dirt somewhere. I'd be keen to know what I have. It looks quite a nice machine.

    Mike
     
  2. Eastblock

    Eastblock New Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    6/1, 5/1 or 3.5/1 is the output in HP and number of cylinders.
     
  3. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Looking at the side and end view, there appears to be just the faintest edge showing of a plate above the crankcase door and breather. This should be the spec plate and will give you all the relevant information. If the plate is missing, check the flywheel faces for a serial number stamped in. Then armed with the serial, and if you have it, spec no's. it is nearly always possible to obtain a date of manufacture.

    Mark
     
  4. lambe

    lambe Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Nice to see a good example in as found state, very hard to create that oiled dust patina(no grate polish to be seen!)
     
  5. mikefarm

    mikefarm New Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Hi Numpty1

    Yes found the plate that you referred to. Attached in pic. Its says 6 HP, "No 3227 13".
    The "Spec" section does not have any numbers in it. I had to clean off the wonderful "patina" that Lambe admired.

    I had a look here:
    Lister 1: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Engi ... Dating.htm Lister dating up to 1951
    Lister 2: http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/Engi ... ating5.htm Lister dating Post 1950 to 1970 approx

    If the engine is from the 1950s then the 13 may be 1 cyl and 1950+3 = 1953.
    If it's from the 1930's then the Lister2 page above for pre 1950 engines has a "1781" in the row for 1931 and column for "Diesel CS Types".
    Does this mean the serial numbers started at 1781 for that year?

    Mike
     
  6. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Hi Mike,

    No picture showing. Anyone on here able to help with a rough date for the engine?

    Mark
     
  7. petternut

    petternut Administrator

  8. mikefarm

    mikefarm New Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Hi all

    Thanks for the suggestion Roland. It's a 1963 machine. I emailed David Edgington and he asked for some additional info; the serial number on the fly wheel. This was 6-1 / E4. He queried that there was a blank in the engine number of "3227 13" so I double checked. It's definately a blank in the middle of those numbers. He then got back to me that the 13 will make it a 1963 date of manufacture (1950+13=1963).

    All the designations are in his book which I think I'll get.

    Regards
    Mike
     
  9. Mudmover

    Mudmover New Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Hello Mike,
    You have a very complete and original installation there, typical of many shearing sheds round the country. Should have had a fairly easy life, as a 3 stsand shed only needed 3 or 4 hp to run. Is it possible to leave it in situ and let it drive the lineshaft and overhead gear, at least as a demo setup, or better still, put it to work again at shearing or crutching time?
    If it has stood for a lot of years it would be worth pulling the sideplate, draining the oil and removing the splash baffle in the sump to clean out the sludge deposit which will have collected in the bottom round the oil pickup screen. After washing out with kero it would then be safe to run the modern detergent multigrade oils that everthing now uses. Also be sure that the pump rack opens and closes smoothly. You don't need it to stick open and bolt away to self destruct. Owner operator books are likely available on this site, or through Plough Book Sales in Victoria. They are one great old motor. Some farms and stations ran them round 40,000 hours before major rebuilds. I have a later 8/1 and the aircooled variant called a VA, and they are something I would hate to part with.
    The old iron addicts in Oz would be interested in the pics of your nice old setup. Worth posting on the Old Machinery Magazine (TOMM) forum for them to appreciate. Happy cranking, Mudmover.
     
  10. mikefarm

    mikefarm New Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Hi all & Mudmover

    Yes it will be left in situ. I plan to first give it a water cleaner spray to get the dust & oil patina off the surface. I'll go gently so I don't take off any paint. I'd like to get it going again as a demo thing and keep it in working order. Thanks for the tips on cleaning it out. I have the owner operator manual for it from the Net but I know zilch on engines so will get it all cleaned first then go slowly. Might try and get some local antique engine buffs to help me.

    Have ordered David Edgington's book on the Lister CS Story for background info. Plough Book sales did have a Lister CS book listed but it was nearly as much as a new one from David and he helped me out with the date so ordered it from him.

    Mike
     
  11. mikefarm

    mikefarm New Member

    Re: What Lister CS do I have? It drove a shearing setup in O

    Hi all

    Final follow-up - today I received "The Lister CS Story" by David Edgington that I had ordered from him.
    I have edited and typeset a couple of journals over the years so know when I see a good publication :)
    David's book is very well laid out, nice simple headings and text. The crispness of the font is apparent
    as he has used good quality paper and a good printer. The photos also are excellent - I was quite surprised
    to see so many photos in color. Publishing high quality books like this is not cheap so congratulations to David
    for this superb book. I look forward tonight to reading it all.

    Best regards
    Mike
     

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