Blackstone

Discussion in 'Identification' started by picklesquirt, Mar 8, 2015.

  1. picklesquirt

    picklesquirt Member

    Hi all,

    A friend ( no internet ) is hoping to acquire a Blackstone Oil Engine. The only thing I know about it is the Ser No 161410 it is thought to be 35 hp, horizontal single cylinder. Can anyone help me identify it from the No
    Thanks

    Ewan
     
  2. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Sounds like a Spring Injection Diesel from the serial number but could be a very late hotbulb or even a rare SFC 'start from cold' paraffin type. It will have a mag if it is one of these. An enquiry to the Anson museum should provide you the details but it wont be quick and is by snail mail only and a donation is required. For technical stuff, if its not on here, try Lincolnshire Archives as Stamford Museum holds/held the Blackstone records. They don't always have stuff on each individual engine type but worth asking once you know what the engine type is. customer_services at lincolnshire dot gov dot uk.
     
  3. Dazzla

    Dazzla Member

    I'd put a 161xxxx number into the 1930's, so very likely a larger springer. I know one such engine, trailer mounted, up in the north west that is supposedly on the market.

    Dazzla
     
  4. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Not sure on that Darren, 1803xx is 1931 so 161xxx is likely to be late 20's. Probably too late for a hotbulb, although Blackstones persisted making this design even after the Spring Injection was well and truly established. I know of a mid 20's hotbulb engine. Have a look at this chart, it may help. http://www.oldengine.org/members/blkstone/RangeDate.htm

    Mark
     
  5. Patrick

    Patrick Member

    Hi Ewan

    Blackstone engine s/n 161410 is listed in Michael's "Register of Survivers" engine as a type GS1-1 built/sold 02.05.1926, going to H Warner & Sons, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
    Patrick knight
     
  6. Dazzla

    Dazzla Member

    I stand corrected Mark!

    I got my numbers and years mixed up. I used to have 171451, a 9hp springer. That was new in 1929.

    It's all irrelevant now as Pat has given us the proper information. What would we do without him?!

    Dazzla
     
  7. picklesquirt

    picklesquirt Member

    Hi all

    Thank you very much for your thoughts and information. I will pass this on. I have not seen this engine yet only the brass plate and I am told it is partly dismantled and not even sure if the crank has been found yet.

    Ewan
     
  8. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    That's interesting... There isn't a type GS1 on the list! Could this be GSI meaning its a Spring Injection? All rather confusing but thank you Patrick for enlightening us.

    Mark

    PS Thanks to Darren for sorting out my confusion. Almost certainly an SI with G denoting the size and -1 the number of cylinders.
     
  9. Patrick

    Patrick Member

    gentlemen,
    The engine is indeed a 'Spring Injection' type. The G.S.I (incorrectly typed in as GS1) in my original posting was the second to largest single cylinder in what Blackstone refered to as their 'Smal Single Cylinder Type'; it was rated at 38bhp at 255rpm. The flywheel (single) was 5ft 9in by 6.5in or when fitted with twin flywheels these were 5ft 0in by 6in. The water vessen recommended was 1,145 gallons
    The smallest in the range was the J.S.I. at 6bhp and the largest was the P.S.I. at 45bhp
    Patrick
     
  10. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Thanks again Patrick, that is some beast of an engine then and just the sort a friend is looking for, maybe even a PSI!

    Mark
     

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