Twyford Waterworks New Years Day

Discussion in 'Events' started by Ferret01, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Ferret01

    Ferret01 Member

    Hi all.
    Twyford Waterworks is hosting it's usual "freeze yer guvnors off" crank-up on New Years Day.
    Amongst other things there will (hopefully) be two Ruston 2PS's running, thanks to Numpty 1 for making us a new bearing for ours.
    The usual attractions, free vintage bus service to/from Winchester courtesy of FoKAB (free entry to those clutching a timetable) on the half hour, tea-room and barbecue open, plus the last chance to see the 1934 Ruston 3VER running before it's taken out of service for overhaul.
    Stationary engines welcome (free tea & biccies for exhibitors)
    Gates open to the public 11.00am, entry £5.00, children free.
    Any more info call me on 07933779919 or see the website
  2. admin

    admin New Member

    When you stop deliberately holding events on the same day as us I will get down for a look :)

    Don't suppose you have had any luck with the dead cylinder head yet?

  3. Ferret01

    Ferret01 Member

    Hi Paul, sorry about that, just thought there might be a few down this way who couldn't afford the snow shoes to get to yours :p
    No luck with the head, we've found a (temporary) way round it though. We're intending to take the 3-cyl off-line for overhaul so we're going to nick a head off that for the time being.
    At least it gives people a chance to see the 4-cyl running.
    Hopefully we'll have the problem solved by 2014 when they celebrate their 80th birthday.
    Oh and a public "thank you" to Mark (Numpty 1) for the 2PS bearing.
  4. admin

    admin New Member

    Won't need snow shoes, the sun will be out in Wales as usual. Mind you, temp will be about -11C!!!!!


  5. Ferret01

    Ferret01 Member

    It's looking that way down here, "winter drawers on" :lol:
  6. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Geoff, It will be a pleasure to see that 2PS run again, and if I can get the other one there before it heads west, then that will be Brill! :D Just hope Jack Frost doesn't put paid to best made plans, 50 miles is a fair trott but a bit closer than 260! Sorry Paul, would like to come and play NYD but a 500+ round trip seems a lot to freeze Brass Monkeys! :lol:

  7. campingstoveman

    campingstoveman Active Member

  8. petternut

    petternut Administrator

    Sensible person. Having attempted work at IF when fingers stuck to engines I'm with Mark on that one.
    Martin - origin of "brass monkeys" ?

  9. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Good one Roland, that should keep him quiet for a few hours!


  10. campingstoveman

    campingstoveman Active Member

    It's amazing what you can find on the internet.
  11. campingstoveman

    campingstoveman Active Member

    Sorry forgot to mention cannonballs brass triangles and the cold
  12. campingstoveman

    campingstoveman Active Member

    Don't have the time to do it properly, still on site trying to do the impossible. Looking on here for five mins to hold my insanity together as it's falling apart fast.
  13. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

  14. Ferret01

    Ferret01 Member

    Just to further the cause, take a look at this;

    "For those wanting a bit more detail, here's the science bit. The coefficient of expansion of brass is 0.000019; that of iron is 0.000012. If the base of the stack were one metre long, the drop in temperature needed to make the 'monkey' shrink relative to the balls by just one millimetre, would be around 100 degrees Celsius. Such a small shrinkage wouldn't have had the slightest effect. In any case, in weather like that, the sailors would probably have better things to think about than coining new phrases."

    for the scientific among you....

  15. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    ....Also can you imagine a stack of cannonballs remaining thus on a rolling, pitching vessel.

    My take is that brass Monkeys were door knockers. In very cold weather striking the base with the knocker or knob caused it to break and fall off. Hence freezing the knob off a Monkey and over the years it has evolved into the current saying.
  16. campingstoveman

    campingstoveman Active Member

    I seem to have read some where that the sailors used pitch to hold the balls in place so stopping them from rolling around, if they stood to long it was a little difficult to seperate them though.

    I cant imagine a door knocker breaking in two, it would have to be artic conditions for that to happen particularly with brass. It could happen with cast iron if very very cold but then the saying would have to change to "freeze the balls of a cast iron monkey" which looses its ring.

    Martin P
  17. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    Well neither can I, anyone else got a different take on this?

  18. Skankin_giant

    Skankin_giant Well-Known Member

    Just consulted the Navy, He seem to think its is to do with Cannon Balls, when in storage on a ship the balls sat on a Brass plate with indentations for the balls to sit in called a Monkey, in cold weather this would shrink and the balls would roll off.

    This type of idea:-


    No I don’t know if this isn’t right as far as I knew cannon balls were stored in wood rack while aboard.

    # Edit:- Woops noticed that ones been said. #

    Cheers Steve
  19. Numpty1

    Numpty1 Member

    If it is indeed a Nautical term, then I suspect it has more to do with the expansion of water as ice than metal contraction.

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